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...your BD history? (herstory?)
teachers? books? internet? Am just starting out and am looking for where I should be lookin
Eshe
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teachers? books? internet? Am just starting out and am looking for where I should be lookin
Eshe
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Re: who taught you
Thu, September 28, 2006 - 5:39 AMI received some history from teachers, but the best source is Morocco from NYC.
She has articles on her website at:
www.casbahdance.org/
Click on Articles on the left
Aunt Rocky has probably forgotten more than other dancers have known!
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She's a busy lady, but has done tons of research and will hopefully publish one day. -
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Thu, September 28, 2006 - 9:26 AMA combination of my teacher, the net, and workshop instructors like Morocco, Artemis Mourat, and Alexandra King.
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Thu, September 28, 2006 - 10:39 AMI had two main teachers. The first was Fatina who was a student of Ibrahim Farrah's. Sadly Fatina recently died from cancer.
My second and longer lasting teacher is Princess Madiha, from Syria. She is coming out with a DVD soon.
I' m glad I started when I did. Teacher's were scarce and you latched onto one when you found one. Most teachers waited to teach until they retired from the stage.
Now there are so many options and styles of dance out there I wouldn't know where to start! Good luck!
You might want to go to youtube.com and watch a variety of different dancers with different styles, like tribal, Eyptian, etc. Once you pick a style you'd like to learn it will be easier to focus on teachers you should study from. -
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Fri, February 16, 2007 - 8:01 PMMarhaba Natalia,
Was your grandmother a performer in Lebanon? If she was, she was probably performing at the same time that my grandma was! What brought your Lebanese family to Costa Rica? I didn't think there was a big Lebanese community in CR. I stopped here on my way back from doing workshops in Chile to do workshops here and in other central american countries. I'm currently staying with my cousin Priscilla Adum. Do you know her?
Regards,
Suha
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Fri, September 29, 2006 - 1:41 PMJamilla Pappas is one of a kind. She is quite disiplined and knowledgeable about not only bellydance, but of other folk dances as well. She performed in the Greek nightclubs here and when she finished her show, we would learn the various line dances.
Then I was so fortunate to study with the amazing Suzanna Del Vecchio. She too had performed in the nightclubs here. What these two magnificient women both have is a polish and skill that I will never forget. Norma also said it, in that when you find a fabulous teacher/mentor, that is a Goddess send. I also love Carolena with Fat Chance, Bert Balladine and of course Aunt Rocky. -
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Fri, September 29, 2006 - 6:02 PMCarol Shannon, Fort Worh Texas and guest workshops with Delila, Bert Balladine, Isis, and Barbara from Armenia(so long ago I can't remember her last name).
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Sat, September 30, 2006 - 4:11 AMTeachers, Internet, Videos. :-) Books are useless to me - I need to see the move being done.
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Sat, September 30, 2006 - 9:59 AMThere's nothing like a real live person who is particularly interested in YOU! No comparison! Even if you have to drive an hour or so to get to your teacher, it's priceless compared to books, videos, internet - -
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Tue, October 10, 2006 - 2:05 AMSorry, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I meant who taught you your BD history, not who taught you BD....I'm just starting to learn more about the history...;)
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Fri, October 13, 2006 - 8:18 PMHi Eshe! I wish you could have been there the night we had a 3 hr discussion about history of bellydance. Lets do it again sometime. I would like to do it regularly, because i think its so important and empowering, the more we understand history, and culture, then we understand why things are the way they are today, the many styles etc. and we can choose our own path confidently, whatever way it may be. i learned alot from Delilah, and many other dancers and also nondanccers who speak about ancient times, goddess culture, and prepatriachal times, also traveling is an immense eductaion in itself. big lovexoxox -
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Wed, October 18, 2006 - 8:53 AMSorry, I didn't understand you.
My teacher taught me a little about the local history scene (meaning East Coast), then I joined a folkloric troupe for the express purpose of learning folkloric dances. So I got a lot of info from the troupe, and also from researching the dances myself. It was an ongoing process in the troupe, since we were all supposed to keep learning & researching anyway.
Then more private research on my own when I started teaching (books, magazines, videos back then!!). I still research occasionally in preparation for special events like shows (when I"m emceeing), or workshops. Seems like there's always more history to learn!
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Tue, October 24, 2006 - 11:33 AMI did a lot of research online with Google. My teacher Alexia has told us in class a lot about the historical contexts of many of the dances, like the cane dance and Turkish Romani dance, etc. I got Jamila Salimpour's book on the dancers of the Chicago World Fair, which has photos and of-the-day commentaries from the newspapers that covered it. I also just got a DVD about the dances from all over Egypt during the late 70's early 80's.
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Wed, November 8, 2006 - 9:21 AMI was taught by my mother, 70's Nefertiti, who was taught by Jodette and another lady in phoenix (I'm not sure who though).
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Wed, November 8, 2006 - 3:46 PMMorocco is definitely the best for reasearch on Middle Eastern Dance and I've taken many wonderful workshops of hers. My favorite teachers are Aviva! (studied with Ibrahim Farrah),Anahid Sofian and Dalia Carella. -
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Thu, November 9, 2006 - 3:29 AMSabah Nissan showed me the ropes of the "old guard" as she calls it...
The NYC 8th Ave scene of the 50's, 60's & 70's
Artemis Mourat of Turkish Oriental and Romany...Also Eva Cernik, Dalia Carella and Anahid Sofian.
I've talk a lot about the whole west coast scene plus with Jamila Salimpour and listened to her lectures she's given.
Magda Saleh about the folk dances of Egypt.
All of these dancers have valid, well researched information as I'm sure others do too.
I think all sources are important. -
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Thu, November 9, 2006 - 12:32 PMKajira Djumana taught me. I've also taken classes from other teachers, Jill Parker, Suhaila, Colleena and Terri Anne. Good teachers all of them :)
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Thu, November 9, 2006 - 1:07 PMMy teachers have taught me a lot. One recommended gilded serpent's "north beach" articles.
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Thu, February 15, 2007 - 10:00 PMI learned what I know at home, with my mum. Both my grandmother and mother were professional dancers in Lebanon and you really couldn't hope for better private tutoring in old-fashioned, undiluted oriental dance! My grandmother performed in the 50's and my mother performed until the early 70's. My mum was also the lead dancer and soloist of the Beirut College for Women's folkdance troupe. (it's now co-ed and is called the Lebanese American University www.lau.edu.lb) I feel very lucky to have been born into such an artistic household. I owe a lot to my mother and my late grandma.
Regards,
Suha
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Tue, February 20, 2007 - 10:22 AMAll of the above
It's good to try and understand history and culture about the Middle East in general as well as dance specifically. That can help you draw the relationships and understand how it all fits together better.
For myself, I was on the med-dance list serve for a long time, I used the local library and middle east center at my local university where I checked out videos and read books, papers and magazines both dance specific and not. Also tried to take advantage of my teachers. Some of the more helpful teachers, information wise, that I ran accross included Sahra Kent, Amel Toufsout, Helene Eriksen and Artemis Mourat, Morocco, for various different topics, they are each very research oriented and are a good starting point for learning about, although there are certainly more out there that are great resources. I was also able to use my husband as somewhat of a resource for more general cultural information. Mendocino dance camp actually turned out to be a great opportunity to accessing some great teachers, as well as Karim's Arab Dance seminar and the folktours dance camp in PA. I'm looking forward to traveling to the middle east in the not to distant future. Of course, I've also purchased books and videos, etc.
When I had a website I had a resources page to help people find much of the same stuff I found, it included books I recommended people read, as well as internet sites with articles and information and that sort of thing. I'll see if I can post that here.
As you learn and research, I think it's important to be able to read selectively. I mention that because there is a lot of what can be called "wishtory" out there, and you have to decide for yourself what is reasonably viable and what is just made up. I reccomend that you be particularly skeptical of anything claiming to be the sole source of belly dance or the anchient birth place of it. Dance is an ever changing entity which is consistently being influenced, changed and shifted. No doubt this has happened throughout time, particularly in a place as volitile as the Middle East. -
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Tue, February 20, 2007 - 10:27 AMokay, here it is, let's see if it will paste good:
Shems' Resource List for the Middle Eastern Belly Dancer :
Best Worldwide Email List for Middle Eastern Dance:
The Med-Dance Email List To join the list, send e-mail to Majordomo@world.std.com with the line "subscribe med-dance" in the subject line and in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, send e-mail to dancers-archive@world.std.com with "subscribe med-dance-digest" in the subject line and in the body of the message.
To Learn More About the History of Middle Eastern Dance Online:
Jalilah Raks Sharki has the best brief history I've ever found online www.piranha.de/jalilah/ (the CDs she produces are great too.)
Morocco's Meanderings www.casbahdance.org This site includes great articles and a wonderful booklist.
Karin van Nieuwkerk "An hour for God and an hour for the heart": Islam, gender and female entertainment in Egypt www.muspe.unibo.it/period/M...rin_0.htm
Additional Good Informational Sites:
The Art of Middle Eastern Dance (by Shira) www.shira.net/ International Directories, Articles & Fun Stuff
bhuz.com www.bhuz.com/ International Directories & Event Listings, Discussion Groups, Newsletter, Surveys, Shopping
Aziza Said's Mid-Eastern Dance Site www.zilltech.com/ Good book lists & descriptions, dancer sitings in pop culture, old photos & etchings, & other goodies.
The Gilded Serpent www.gildedserpent.com/ Online Magazine, great California Coast dance history and other good articles.
Yasmina's Joy of Belly Dancing www.joyofbellydancing.com/ All sorts of fun things, from old photos to extensive, interesting & well organised links & articles.
More Online Articles:
though just a smattering of what's out there it is a good start to seeing different perspectives on the dance.
Andrea Deagon people.uncw.edu/deagona/ra...rticles.htm
Anthea www.kawakib.com/articles.html
Alexandria's Article on the Ghawazee: clonecomics.com/ghawazee.com/about/
Belly Dance Home Page (Oriental Dance) www.bdancer.com/ (note Me'ira's "Origins of Oriental Dance" is not an accurate history).
Belly Dance Museum has interestering information about many of the earlier stars of Oriental dance www.belly-dance.org/index.html.
Eva Cernik home.earthlink.net/~evacern...dance.htm
Helene Eriksen www.helene-eriksen.de/ Dance Ethnologist, good articles
Hossam Ramzy www.hossamramzy.com/ Good info on some of the early stars of Middle Eastern Dance and a few other articles.
Robin Friend - "The Exquisite Art of Persian Classical Dance" home.earthlink.net/~rcfriend/exquis.htm
Suhaila Salimpour www.suhaila.com/ Look for the articles
Venus www.venusbellydance.com/articles.htm
Zarifa Sa'id www.globaldancearts.com/articles.htm
Z-Helene www.zhelene.com/
Belly Dance Magazines:
Arabesque
no longer in print
but available in some librarys
The "Belly Dancer" Magazine
P.O. Box 820186, Vancouver, WA 98682-0004
OR Call Zaina at (360) 891-7041 for Visa/Mastercard
www.zainahart.com/
The Chronicles
P.O. Box 210787
Bedford, TX 76021
1-888-918-4747
isisandthestardancers.com/CHRON...es.htm
Cymbal Magazine
MECDA:
P O Box 946, Rosemead, CA 91770
www.mecda.org/CYMBAL/index.htm
Habibi Magazine
PO Box 90936 Santa Barbara, CA 93190-0936
Jareeda
PO Box 680 Sutherlin, OR 97479
www.jareeda.com/
Tribal Talk
no longer in print
back issues available from: www.fcbd.com/html/newsletter.html
Wiggle Hips
no longer in print
PO Box 20366, Sun Valley, NV 8943
www.twooldbags.net/wighips2.html
Zaghareet!
P.O. Box 1809 Elizabeth City, NC 27906
zaghareet.freeservers.com
Middle Eastern Dance Organizations:
IAMED - International Academy of Middle Eastern Dance
MECDA - Middle Eastern Culture and Dance Association
Regional Middle Eastern Dance Organizations:
New York - ASAMED Associated Artists of Middle Eastern Dance
North Texas - NTMEDA North Texas Middle Eastern Dance Association
Washington DC - WAMEDA Washington Area Mid-East Dance Association
San Diego, California SAMEDA San Diego Area Middle Eastern Dance Association
Books:
"Looking for Little Egypt", Donna Carlton This is an excellent book on the history of our dance since it came to the United States in the late 1800s. Well researched and some wonderful old pictures.
"A Trade Like Any Other - Female Singers and Dancers in Egypt", Karin van Nieuwkerk An excellent book on the cultural ideas and experiences that surround women entertainers in the Middle East. Looks at the historical and current realities and traditions. It is an academic piece of literature which makes it somewhat of a dry read but great information.
"The Belly Dance Book : Rediscovering the Oldest Dance" Tazz Richards Great information for those who would love to begin their journey into Middle Eastern dance. It is a great resource of history & research of the dance as a whole. Chapters by Morocco, Aziza and many other well known dancers.
"Serpent of the Nile - Women and Dance in the Arab World" by Wendy Buonaventura It has wonderful illustrations, paintings, photos, and Orientalist Art. however, this book is not historically accurate.
"Grandmother's Secrets: The Ancient Rituals and Healing Power of Belly Dancing" by Rosina-Fawzia B. Al-Rawi Fawzia Al-Rawi describes her grandmother's first lesson about the ancient craft of Oriental dance. Pleasant read but not historically accurate.
"Harem, The World Behind the Veil" by Alev Lytle Croutier Histories and memoirs in the world's harems focusing on the fabled harem of Topkapi Palace in Turkey.
"They Told Me I Couldn't" by Tamalyn Dallal One dancer's experience traveling to Columbia for a dance job and her many adventures there.
"The Transmission of Oriental Dance in the United States." by Michelle Forner It describes and analyzes the proliferation of Middle Eastern dance in the United States.
"Snake Hips" by Anne Thomas Soffee, Her personal story about finding belly dance and true love, very entertaining.
Also be sure to check out the extended booklists about Middle Eastern Dance & Culture on Aisha Ali's Site, Aziza Said's Mid-Eastern Dance Site and Morocco's Meanderings.
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Tue, February 20, 2007 - 10:35 AMalso some books I liked, that aren't on the list above because they aren't dance specific:
Bury Me Standing by Isobel Fonesca - to better understand Roma culture
The Veil and the Male Elite by Fatima Mernissi - to get a look at feminism within Islamic culture
The Great War for Civilisation by Robert Fisk - to learn the history about some of effects of western policies in the middle east (although this one is admitedly heavy and dark)
At this point in time, there is so much information available about the middle east that it can be overwhelming. Good luck, I admire people who liked to be well informed.
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Tue, February 20, 2007 - 10:41 AMwow, I really haven't updated this in a while:
Artemis' article on Turkish Dancing:
www.serpentine.org/artemis/...ance.html
I thought was important to include.
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Mon, March 19, 2007 - 1:10 PMI love the books "Sacred Woman, Sacred Dance" by Iris Stewart, "Serpent of the Nile" by Wendy Buonaventura, and "Grandmother's Secrets" by Rosina Fawzia Al-Rawi.
Buonaventura also has a book called "Something in the Way She Moves" which I have started reading.
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Mon, March 19, 2007 - 1:11 PMand definitely check out www.shira.net Shira is a WEALTH of information!
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Mon, March 19, 2007 - 11:52 PMFind the vender ring....you can find one after every event somewhere.....veteran venders and sponcers like Mezdulene, Halima, Fatima, Janie and Gaylene like to gather and talk...and like to talk about the old times....I find myself a weath of knowlege spilling on the floor at the feet of master teachers and dancers....Morrocco has really nice feet, they are expensive and space is always hard to find....I have been dancing in the Northwest since I was 5, I am 31 now....the Northwest is all I really know....but find yourself that ring of veterans and find yourself history....Just becareful they can bite.....
